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		<title>By: Yoanka</title>
		<link>http://www.turtle-paradise.net/manga/barajou-no-kiss/comment-page-24/#comment-44275</link>
		<dc:creator>Yoanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to thank you. Thank you all for what you&#039;ve done to make this manga available for everyone. It&#039;s a really great job. Keep it up, please. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to thank you. Thank you all for what you&#8217;ve done to make this manga available for everyone. It&#8217;s a really great job. Keep it up, please. :)</p>
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		<title>By: rebmastu</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebmastu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So while we&#039;re here, out of curiosity, does anyone ELSE feel the need to chip in their two cents or jump down the throats of these &quot;fanatics&quot; I have yet to see anywhere in this thread?

The topic is DEAD. One more person tries to necro with their &quot;wisdom,&quot; I delete the whole damn shot. Gdm people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So while we&#8217;re here, out of curiosity, does anyone ELSE feel the need to chip in their two cents or jump down the throats of these &#8220;fanatics&#8221; I have yet to see anywhere in this thread?</p>
<p>The topic is DEAD. One more person tries to necro with their &#8220;wisdom,&#8221; I delete the whole damn shot. Gdm people.</p>
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		<title>By: mio</title>
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		<dc:creator>mio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thing it takes time to get new chapter`s out i have been a cleaner a translator and a proof reader for a 3 year`s so i know how hard it is word of advise to you crazy fans it takes time the`s people have life`s they go to school they have jobs some even have 3 so chill out watch t v go out side read a book watch anime on line do whatever but do not think that they take order`s from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thing it takes time to get new chapter`s out i have been a cleaner a translator and a proof reader for a 3 year`s so i know how hard it is word of advise to you crazy fans it takes time the`s people have life`s they go to school they have jobs some even have 3 so chill out watch t v go out side read a book watch anime on line do whatever but do not think that they take order`s from you.</p>
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		<title>By: Misaki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are so weird! Haha talking about the release date, is like writing a story it takes time and patience and hard work. I check here everyday just because I like to see if they&#039;ve moved to different step in the process. AndI&#039;m 100% positive that all your readers are grateful and if they really enjoy a series they&#039;ll wait whatever time frame necessary! I know I would! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are so weird! Haha talking about the release date, is like writing a story it takes time and patience and hard work. I check here everyday just because I like to see if they&#8217;ve moved to different step in the process. AndI&#8217;m 100% positive that all your readers are grateful and if they really enjoy a series they&#8217;ll wait whatever time frame necessary! I know I would! :)</p>
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		<title>By: non8</title>
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		<dc:creator>non8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Melfra

If I could, I would edit the post I posted, so sorry about that...

I&#039;m a high school senior myself. And a one woman scanlation group.
The timeframe I mentioned is from when I had a lot of time (I&#039;m a sorta slacker, so duh) and desperately wanted to release a chapter.

Not everyone has a lot of time (or is a NEET ^^ or NE-T [NEET minus Education] lol) and I understand that.

I said &quot;15 days&quot; but I meant it as in &quot;15 consecutive days without sleep and breaks&quot;. Or 15~20 days of consecutive holidays.
I also understand that you work on several different series at time so that multiplies the time it takes by several-folds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Melfra</p>
<p>If I could, I would edit the post I posted, so sorry about that&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a high school senior myself. And a one woman scanlation group.<br />
The timeframe I mentioned is from when I had a lot of time (I&#8217;m a sorta slacker, so duh) and desperately wanted to release a chapter.</p>
<p>Not everyone has a lot of time (or is a NEET ^^ or NE-T [NEET minus Education] lol) and I understand that.</p>
<p>I said &#8220;15 days&#8221; but I meant it as in &#8220;15 consecutive days without sleep and breaks&#8221;. Or 15~20 days of consecutive holidays.<br />
I also understand that you work on several different series at time so that multiplies the time it takes by several-folds.</p>
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		<title>By: LittleStar</title>
		<link>http://www.turtle-paradise.net/manga/barajou-no-kiss/comment-page-24/#comment-43891</link>
		<dc:creator>LittleStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@non8, thanks for answer :)

@rebmastu, I understnad you have your own life.
I don&#039;t expect you drop everything to make new manga release.
I was curious how it all looks, and how many time people spends to edit one chapter.

I am grateful what you done! &lt;3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@non8, thanks for answer :)</p>
<p>@rebmastu, I understnad you have your own life.<br />
I don&#8217;t expect you drop everything to make new manga release.<br />
I was curious how it all looks, and how many time people spends to edit one chapter.</p>
<p>I am grateful what you done! &lt;3</p>
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		<title>By: Melfra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melfra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@non8

I know in advance I&#039;m going to sound incredibly rude here, but even if someone had a pressing reason to &lt;I&gt;need&lt;/I&gt; a chapter, we still wouldn&#039;t be able to come close to the timeframe you mentioned there.  I know you had the best of intentions and I understand your approach, but every member of Turtle Paradise is in school - the vast majority are both employed and in college, and several of us (myself included) hold more than one job. I would love to be able to release a chapter every two weeks, but unfortunately, the schedule you outlined simply isn&#039;t feasible for us. Oh, how I wish it was!

Of course, I&#039;m only saying this because inevitably there are going to be some people who take your comment at face value. I don&#039;t want to contradict-just explain our situation before anyone misunderstands!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@non8</p>
<p>I know in advance I&#8217;m going to sound incredibly rude here, but even if someone had a pressing reason to <i>need</i> a chapter, we still wouldn&#8217;t be able to come close to the timeframe you mentioned there.  I know you had the best of intentions and I understand your approach, but every member of Turtle Paradise is in school &#8211; the vast majority are both employed and in college, and several of us (myself included) hold more than one job. I would love to be able to release a chapter every two weeks, but unfortunately, the schedule you outlined simply isn&#8217;t feasible for us. Oh, how I wish it was!</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m only saying this because inevitably there are going to be some people who take your comment at face value. I don&#8217;t want to contradict-just explain our situation before anyone misunderstands!</p>
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		<title>By: non8</title>
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		<dc:creator>non8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@LittleStar @rebmastu

Of course, I meant that it&#039;s done when it&#039;s done.

I just simply did as little as to basically measure the time it could take - IF THE PEOPLE WORKING ON IT DID IT WITHOUT A BREAK.

But basically, the more motor nerves the scanlator has the faster it&#039;s done.

That is, not to forget that even scanlators have real life and scanlating does not take priority so readers can&#039;t expect that scanlators will forsake their life for the purpose of releasing new chapters.
FAN SCANLATORS ARE NOT PROFESSIONAL WORKERS FOR MANGA PUBLISHING COMPANIES, WHO ON THE OTHER HAND ARE PAID TO BRING NEW MANGA TO READERS.

And I am thankful for any scanlators there are for taking their precious time to provide the fruit of their work to us readers.

Having a little patience is all that reader needs to have (Not having patience is understandable only if doctors said that you&#039;re going to die in less than a year. Wanting to finish reading series you like before you die is an acceptable excuse. LoL).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LittleStar @rebmastu</p>
<p>Of course, I meant that it&#8217;s done when it&#8217;s done.</p>
<p>I just simply did as little as to basically measure the time it could take &#8211; IF THE PEOPLE WORKING ON IT DID IT WITHOUT A BREAK.</p>
<p>But basically, the more motor nerves the scanlator has the faster it&#8217;s done.</p>
<p>That is, not to forget that even scanlators have real life and scanlating does not take priority so readers can&#8217;t expect that scanlators will forsake their life for the purpose of releasing new chapters.<br />
FAN SCANLATORS ARE NOT PROFESSIONAL WORKERS FOR MANGA PUBLISHING COMPANIES, WHO ON THE OTHER HAND ARE PAID TO BRING NEW MANGA TO READERS.</p>
<p>And I am thankful for any scanlators there are for taking their precious time to provide the fruit of their work to us readers.</p>
<p>Having a little patience is all that reader needs to have (Not having patience is understandable only if doctors said that you&#8217;re going to die in less than a year. Wanting to finish reading series you like before you die is an acceptable excuse. LoL).</p>
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		<title>By: rebmastu</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebmastu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 23:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@LittleStar

No series or chapter can be given a direct time frame. It&#039;s finished when it&#039;s done, and to name each action to a time is to set a precedent for activity that casual readers will feel the group is beholden to maintain, which puts an undue amount of stress on the members involved.

That said, please do not take Non8&#039;s comment to be an indication of our working process or expect us to hold to that working schedule or any variation thereof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LittleStar</p>
<p>No series or chapter can be given a direct time frame. It&#8217;s finished when it&#8217;s done, and to name each action to a time is to set a precedent for activity that casual readers will feel the group is beholden to maintain, which puts an undue amount of stress on the members involved.</p>
<p>That said, please do not take Non8&#8242;s comment to be an indication of our working process or expect us to hold to that working schedule or any variation thereof.</p>
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		<title>By: non8</title>
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		<dc:creator>non8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 23:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;43871&quot;]How much time you need to clean scans, replace japanese text with the translation and everything else?
Anyway... How many time you need to edit one chapter?[/quote]

Can I answer you that?:

There are two types of chapters to edit:
&gt;Easy to edit (with less sfx and text pasted on the image) -takes about 1 day
&gt;Hard to edit (a lot of text + lot of tone repairing and redrawing bc there&#039;s a lot of text and sfx pasted on the picture) -this means that for 5+ consecutive days you work on it until you can&#039;t feel your hand anymore or you drop from exhaustion.

Translating:
&gt;little text+easy sentences= less than day
&gt;medium text 30 pages= about 1 day
&gt;30+ pages with a lot of handwritten text and hard sentences= 3 days+

Typesetting: depends on an quantity of text and using different fonts can take more time as well. But typesetting is quite fun, so if you don&#039;t get sick of it, it&#039;ll take only about a day - but for that you really need motor nerves. So I think that BaraKiss takes 3 days to typeset.

Plus there&#039;s scanning - 30pg chapter takes 1 hour.
First cleaning - dividing pages, cropping - 1 day.
TL-check - 1/2 a day.
QC a packing file - 3/4 of a day.

Approximately, a chapter of BaraKiss is done in 15 days (if there is more than one person working on it).

I&#039;m not sure though, because I&#039;m not a part of the staff here, but I have my own scanlation group so I know how hard it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="http://www.turtle-paradise.net/manga/barajou-no-kiss/#comment-43871"><p>
How much time you need to clean scans, replace japanese text with the translation and everything else?<br />
Anyway&#8230; How many time you need to edit one chapter?</p>
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<p>Can I answer you that?:</p>
<p>There are two types of chapters to edit:<br />
&gt;Easy to edit (with less sfx and text pasted on the image) -takes about 1 day<br />
&gt;Hard to edit (a lot of text + lot of tone repairing and redrawing bc there&#8217;s a lot of text and sfx pasted on the picture) -this means that for 5+ consecutive days you work on it until you can&#8217;t feel your hand anymore or you drop from exhaustion.</p>
<p>Translating:<br />
&gt;little text+easy sentences= less than day<br />
&gt;medium text 30 pages= about 1 day<br />
&gt;30+ pages with a lot of handwritten text and hard sentences= 3 days+</p>
<p>Typesetting: depends on an quantity of text and using different fonts can take more time as well. But typesetting is quite fun, so if you don&#8217;t get sick of it, it&#8217;ll take only about a day &#8211; but for that you really need motor nerves. So I think that BaraKiss takes 3 days to typeset.</p>
<p>Plus there&#8217;s scanning &#8211; 30pg chapter takes 1 hour.<br />
First cleaning &#8211; dividing pages, cropping &#8211; 1 day.<br />
TL-check &#8211; 1/2 a day.<br />
QC a packing file &#8211; 3/4 of a day.</p>
<p>Approximately, a chapter of BaraKiss is done in 15 days (if there is more than one person working on it).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure though, because I&#8217;m not a part of the staff here, but I have my own scanlation group so I know how hard it is.</p>
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